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so morning services you should be okay. and also easter egg hunts you'll be final. northern california on easter gets into some rain. in terms of the temperatures tomorrow, right around average in the southeast. temperatures finally getting to normal, but enjoy it. we'll watch the next arctic shout of air come in, and we have a cold week coming up beginning on monday. don? >> thank you, alexandra. i'm don lemon. here's wolf. president obama launches a new shame offensive on gun control. will his emotional appeal persuade congress to act? north korea's war threats. we're taking you to an island that may be in kim jung-un's cross hairs. and real-life claims of ufos, straight from the fbi's vault. we
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in the days and weeks ahead. of
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congress for swift action, as the senate repairs to take up some anti-gun legislation, as soon as they come back from recess in april. >> what can we expect? what is the president's immediate agenda in the days ahead? >> this upcoming week, he will hold another event, pushing for anti-gun violence legislation in denver, colorado. but as part of that west coast swing, it won't be just official business, he'll be on political business, holding fund raisers in san francisco's big-dollar fund-raisers that have republicans up in arms, screaming partisanship and democrats very happy he's bringing in the coffers, looking ahead to the midterm elections. then it will be his second dinner in town for, as part of his charm offensive, that makes
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place another week away. he'll be having a second dinner with republican senators. i should point out that happens the same day the president releases his budget. >> see what the reaction is from those 12 republicans invited to dinner with the president. jessica, thanks. let's dig deeper on what's going on with candy crowley, host of "state of the union" joining us now. candy, look at the latest poll numbers when it comes to tougher gun laws. do you favor major restrictions on guns or making all guns illegal? back in december, 52% said yes. now it's down to 43%. immediately after newtown, it was 52%. now it's gone down significantly. what's going on here? >> first of all, the internals of that poll show that rural folks answering this question are now back to thinking no, we don't need major gun legislation. and older people. so what's happening is, there
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has been some distance how the president frames it, we've forgotten the children. others say in the height of that horrible tragedy, people's emotions were on high and said yes, we have to get rid of all guns. now 100 days later, it's -- you know, they're saying let's do something that works. so which ever way you look at it, certainly when you look at an assault weapons ban, will there be a vote, but no one thinks it will pass. the question right now is these background checks, including gun shows where about 40% of guns are purchased, including background checks for purchases at gun shows. they are stuck now on capitol hill, because a lot of folks look at these background checks and say, we don't want the paperwork to be kept as it is in gun shops. so the paperwork, this person purchased this on this day, and lots of pro gun rights
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supporters say listen, this just becomes a place for the government to come and look at who has what guns. that's the sticking point. >> realistically, what has the best chance is the expansion of the background checks, of the current federal law. as far as limiting the number of bullets and magazines, that's probably not going to pass and the assault type restrictions, that's probably not going to pass. so whatever is passed, will be relatively modest. >> there will be a school safety element to it. but we also have the straw purchasers, they can't buy a someone for someone that can't buy a gun on their own. but what the president is pushing for, he has to push for what he has on limits on ammo magazines, but realistically speaking, what they want is an expanded background check. that's what they think they can get. >> michael bloomberg is putting
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in $12 million of his own money, trying to find out some of these ads, a group called mayors against illegal guns, they have put an ad out to fight the nra. listen to this little clip. >> i believe in the second amendment, and i'll fight to protect it. but with rights come responsibilities. that's why i support co comprehensive background checks so criminals and the dangerously mentally ill can't buy guns. >> it's been a long time since we've seen the anti-nra ads come up with some serious cash. >> and what's interesting, and mayor bloomberg heading this, and he has his own personal wealth, what's interesting here is what they're talking about. it's the background checks, they're not talking about banals on 30-round clips or ban s on assault weapons. including where some democrats
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in southern states in particular where the gun culture is very strong. so it remains to be seen whether some of this might backfire. there's talk whether he's undermining democrats in some of these states in louisiana, north carolina, arkansas are three democrats looking at these ads. >> because they want to be re-elected and they're nervous if they vote for this, that could hurt them significantly. >> you know, there's always that fear of somebody coming in and trying to shape a race. so yes, they're very cautious about it, but trying to reflect their constituents. coming up on sunday, we're going to talk about guns, immigration and take a look at what the economy is doing. we have senator lindsey graham, as well as senator blumenthal to
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talk about gun legislation. >> "state of the union" with candy crowley. we know it took less than five minutes for adam lanza to slaughter 26 children and staff at the sandy hook elementary school. documents were released this week, and it's more clear than ever he had a stockpile of weapons and ammunition in his home. susan candiotti has the chilling details. >> reporter: impressive on the outside. inside, the home 20-year-old adam lanza shared with his mother, nancy, more like an arsenal. investigators found at least 1,600 unspent rounds of ammunition. two rifles. three samurai swords. a bayonet. and a seven-foot pole with a blade on one end and a smear on the other. >> there's always a mix in every
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case of depression and paranoia. they're so sad and depressed they're willing to die. and the paranoia really creates this need to surround yourself with weapons. >> reporter: lying in her bed, adam lanza's first victim, his mother nancy. a bullet hole in her forehead, a rifle on the floor. elsewhere in the house, her to do-list. >> this was someone who was living in a world of violence, and somehow either planned on crossing over or at some point was motivated to cross over and be the killer. >> reporter: 150 bullet casings found at sandy hook elementary, shot from 30-round magazines. three found empty. another three with a handful of rounds left. and three more 30-round magazines discovered on his
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body, fully loaded. inside lanza's honda parked outside the school, a shotgun with two 70-round magazines. right after the shooting, a witness told investigators lanza rarely left his home, calling him a "shut-in." the witness described adam as an avid gamer who liked the game "call of duty." inside the home, more creepy clues of what sources described as lanza's obsession with serial killers. several journals, three photos of what appear to be dead bodies in plastic covered in blood. and newspaper clippings about a northern illinois university shooting spree that killed five and injured 21. authorities also found books, including "look me in my question." "born on a blue day," and "train
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your brain to get happy." experts say autism is not associated with violence. >> certainly a young man, if he was getting treatment for his psychological issues, that it just was not working. >> reporter: also found, two nra certificates, one each for nancy and adam. unclear what they were for, the nra says neither was a member, and a sign more firearms were on the way. a holiday card with a check signed by nancy lanza, naming a gun model she had in mind. that same unidentified witness tells police sandy hook elementary was adam lanza's life. it also became his killing field. what was his motive? police have yet to settle on a single theory. their final report is expected in june. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. when we come back, making the trains run faster in the united states. cnn investigates a $12 billion investment and whether your money has been wasted.
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u.s. officials are spending billions of your tax dollars to try to develop a high-speed rail system. but an investigation by cnn finds the obama administration is falling short of the president's goals, and americans are not getting much out of their investment. drew griffin of cnn's special investigations unit filed this report. >> reporter: the plan all along was to build high-speed rail for the future of transportation across america. but despite what this administration keeps saying, in speech after speech, that is not what the u.s. taxpayer is getting. >> so now for one of his last speeches in his position, the secretary of transportation ray lahood. >> reporter: in a half-filled conference room, transportation secretary ray lahood tried to rally hope that his dream and the president's dream of high-speed rail would become a reality. but that dream, shared by those
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here who stand to make money from high-speed rail, is turning into a pipe dream. >> this has been an extraordinary four years for high-speed rail. >> reporter: what is extraordinary is just how much money federal taxpayers have dumped into high-speed rail while the trains are still slow. four years and $12 billion after that pledge to bring high-speed rail across america. the slow trains are just moving a little faster. and one of the greater examples of that is what happened in washington state. >> yes, we received in our state $800 million. >> reporter: paula hammond was the state's transportation secretary until recently retiring. washington state got $800 million from the federal government. that's your tax money. mainly for improving the track between seattle and portland. and what did you get for it?
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over a three hour and 40 minute ride, the trip has been reduced by ten minutes. >> when you think about the fact that you have more options for more round trips, that you know the trip will come and go reliably and on time, that is what our passengers tell us is the most important thing. >> all aboard! >> reporter: in fact, ten minutes isn't a lot of time and despite promises of high speed rail from washington, d.c., it was never washington state's intention of bringing high-speed rail like the bullet trains of japan and europe to this section of the country. the top speed here is now 79 miles per hour. average speed is in the low 50s. >> i don't know whether we'll ever want high, high-speed rail. what we want in our state and in our west coast region between oregon and washington, we want the ability of our communities to be connected so that we can provide good travel, a daily
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business trip between seattle and portland, and the opportunity to not have to fight traffic. >> thank you. >> reporter: that is a far cry from the vision of high-speed rail announced by the president, the vice president, and the secretary of transportation back in 2009, when americans were told japanese and european-style trains would connect our cities. >> what we're talking about is a vision for high-speed rail in america. >> reporter: $12 billion later, that vision has churned out 134 scattered projects across the country that have made slow trains a little faster. keeping them honest, we wanted to know why, and after his speech to the high-speed rail association, we were given a brief interview with ray lahood. >> i'm wondering after four years and $12 billion if you're disappointed where high-speed rail is. where is the high-speed rail? >> the high-speed rail, in four
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years we invested $12 billion. that's just the federal money. >> reporter: but so much has been spent making the old trains go a little faster. seattle to portland, you spent $800 million and the trip time has been reduced by ten minutes. >> well, i think people like the investments we're making. there's so much enthusiasm in america for high-speed rail. we've invested $12 billion in four years. we've seen these investments get trains to higher speeds and improv service. we've seen these investments improve on-time service where amtrak now is at an all-time ridership high. >> reporter: but you want true high-speed rail, right? >> in some parts of the country we're going to have trains going 200 miles per hour. >> reporter: when? >> as soon as we can get the kind of work that needs to be
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done started. >> reporter: what that is exactly is unclear. there is only one true high-speed rail line actually envisioned in the entire united states. it's the california plan to bring a 200-mile-an-hour train from san francisco to los angeles. it's been in the planning stages for nearly ten years and not a single piece of rail has been laid. back in seattle, one day they do hope to reach speeds of perhaps 110 miles an hour in some sections of the track. but at what price? what we do know, this year federal taxpayers will send out another $1 billion for high-speed rail. wolf, secretary lahood tried to explain this is just like the building of the interstate highway system back in the '50s. you know, bits and pieces build here and there, connected after decades of work. but what critics are saying is that is not a good analogy,
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because we're not getting bits and pieces of high-speed rail. we're not getting any high speed rail. we're getting individual projects that are making old, slow rail a little faster. and at a tremendous cost. wolf? >> drew griffin with a special investigations piece for us. excellent work as he always does. thank you. as the u.s. supreme court takes up same-sex marriage, a training legal alliance is arguing against the law that says marriage is between a man and a woman. it's the subject of a new cnn documentary. we have a preview coming up. gloria borger is standing by.
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emotions ran high outside the united states supreme court this week, and there was drama inside as the justices held land mark hearings on same-sex marriage. now two lawyers who went head to head in the case that decided a presidential election are now actually teaming up on something that could be even more far-reaching. that would be the former bush solicitor general ted olson and liberal lawyer david boyes. it's the subject of a new documentary by gloria borger. it airs later tonight here on cnn. here's an excerpt. >> if anybody had told me in the year 2000 after bush versus gore that i would be sitting with you both today on the same side of a case about gay marriage, i would have said, are you nuts?
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>> in the first place, i think we both came to the conclusion that we could be unbeatable if we were on the same side. but if we were on the opposite side, one of us would lose. >> neither one of us likes to lose. >> reporter: with the election over, they became friends. really good friends. even though they still square off in court as recently as last month. >> it was really great. i'll tell you one thing, i like it a lot better when he's on my side than when he's against me. >> reporter: they're now teaming up in what they both say is the biggest case of their distinguished careers. >> i think this is the defining civil rights issue of this time. >> it wasn't a republican issue or a democratic or a conservative oar a liberal issue. it was an american issue that we could go to the courts and to the american public and say, listen to us. this is about human rights, and
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human dignity and respect for all of our citizens. >> gloria is joining us right now. excellent work, gloria. you really got inside the room and learned how ted olson prepares. >> yeah, it was extraordinary access, because ted olson spends a lot of time studying alone in his war room, wolf. and it's this big room, kind of off of his office in which he sits with a legal pad and a pen, the old fashioned way, and makes notes to himself. then we got a view inside the mock court, in which he is grilled by a team of lawyers, including david boyes, because ted olson was the one arguing in this case. he's grilled by a team of lawyers about every potential question that could have been asked at the supreme court and guess what, wolf? they asked most of the questions that the justices did. >> the fact that public opinion has dramatically changed over
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the years when it comes to same-sex marriage, how does that play out? >> ironically, i think it could hurt their case. >> hurt whose case? >> ted olson's case. if you're making the case that this is a law that needs to be changed under the equal protection clause of the constitution, the other side will argue, wait a minute, these people have political power and they also are succeeding at the state level, and you see public opinion shifting in favor of same-sex marriage. so the argument on the other side is, let it proceed at the state level, now that they're starting to have success, and why have the supreme court intervene at this point when things seem to be moving along in the country? so it's sort of an ironic point there. >> counterintuitive.
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>> gloria's documentary airs later tonight. she gets exclusive access in the marriage warriors, showdown at the supreme court. it airs shortly after we're done in "the situation room." it's at 7:30 p.m. eastern, only here on cnn. coming up, north korea puts its rockets of stand by and warns of attacks, we'll go to a south korean island why they're fearing the worst. and what if your airfare was based on your weight. should you have to step on a stale before boarding a plane? . conquer them with the exhilarating is 250. get great values on your favorite lexus models during the command performance sales event. this is the pursuit of perfection. even in stupid loud places. to prove it, we set up our call center right here... [ chirp ] all good? [ chirp ] getty up.
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a push for immigration reform in the united states is heating up in washington. our senior political analyst ron brownstein is here. gloria is still with us. let's talk about immigration reform. the president was upbeat to that
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interview he gave to univision. i'll pay a clip. >> they're paying attention to border security. they're creating a pathway for people to earn their citizenship. my expectation is that we'll actually see a bill on the floor of the senate next month. >> that's pretty upbeat. a bill would be impressive. >> it's a different president obama than the one we know who criticized his republicans over the budget, has done so on gun control issues. i think he's really taking a very different approach here, because he understands they're in a very delicate time in negotiations. that could fall apart at any moment. and there's no reason for the president to go after republicans on his differences with him on guest worker programs or path to citizenship programs. >> what he's describing is how it unfolded in 2006. there were bipartisan
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negotiations between ted kennedy and john mccain. they introduced the bill in march, it went through the committee, was on the floor by may and passed after a nationwide address by president bush. in this case, he's hoping for something similar. i think the president sees this as a win-win issue for him. either he gets the legislative accomplishment of immigration reform or ultimately, republicans are positioned as those blocking it. >> they can say it passed the senate but it never became the law of the land. >> that is the challenge again. >> but i think he believes that republicans are serious about wanting to get this done. he didn't feel that way on deficit issues. didn't feel that way on tax issues. he thinks they're playing games. on this particular issue, he understands that it's in their self-interest to get it done. >> there's a lot of reason for optimism about the senate in terms of passing. >> what about the house? >> the real question there, more
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republicans are probably more comfortable with a comprehensive approach to a path to citizenship. the critical question, will john boehner bring a bill to the floor that has a majority of support in the house overall but not majority republican support? >> the big sticking point is going to be this question of guest workers. that pits unions against the chamber of commerce. it's a very hot button issue. can you bring in these guest workers for low wages, and republicans on one side of that, democrats on the other side of that, and they're going to have to thread that needle. >> and pathway to citizenship. in the senate, they seem to be making progress on that question. >> which the opponents call amnesty. that's a sensitive word,
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especially among republicans in the house of representatives. >> there were focus groups put out this week of republican primary voters in des moine and in south carolina, and they found surprising support for allowing people to become citizens. they found the idea of deportation implausible. >> they just don't want people who have been here illegally to get in front of the line. they don't think that's fair. they want to secure the borders first. this is very important, particularly if you're a republican. they believe when reagan passed immigration reform, that was not done back in the '80s and they need to do it. >> and the bipartisan senate bill is talking about a 13-year pathway before someone who ask here illegally now could become
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a citizen. >> the 22-term republican congressman from alaska, don young, caused heartburn for a lot of republicans this week when he said this. >> my father had a ranch. we used to have 50 to 670 wetbacks to pick tomatoes. it takes two people to pick the same potatoes now. >> the use of the word "wetbacks" was awkward. john boehner said congressman young's remarks were beneath the dignity of the office he holds. >> understandable for john boehner to condemn it. but if you look at polling, among white voters who are upset about the change of -- sentiments like don young's have turned up at other times in the
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immigration debate. it is a problem for them. there is a constituency in the republican party that brings the country is changing too fast. that is a challenge as they face this problem of improving their performance along minority voters. >> the chairman of the rnc came out and said this is awful. the truth of the matter is, when republicans go home to conservative districts, immigration reform and this question dogs them everywhere they go. >> gloria, ron, thank you very much. coming up, a huge week of threats from north korea with tensions on the rise. our reporter visits an island that is caught up right in the middle of this tension.
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a week of war threats by north korea. kim jong-un putting rockets on stand by and warning of possible strikes on hawaii, guam and the u.s. mainland. the united states responding to the threats by flying stealth bombers in a practice mission over south korea. an island near the korean border also is a target of the communist regime's fiery threats. our senior international correspondent matthew chance went there. this is a story you'll see only on cnn. >> reporter: across the yellow sea, the island flashpoints of this korean standoff. we traveled by high-speedboat, within sight of north korean waters, where tensions are making waves once more. along this ferry heading off the
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south korean coast, it's very close to the tension maritime border with the north. over the past few weeks, north korea has been threatening to attack the islands, urging the inhas be inhas bebitants to evacuate. for the people here, they take it very seriously. and this is why. back in 2010, yeonpyeong was attacked by north korean artillery. there was no warning. shells just rained down on the island, causing panic and destruction. at least four south koreans were killed. and the memories of the attack are still fresh. when we finally arrived on dry land and come straight to the spot where the attacks took place, you can see a few of the
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destroyed houses have been preserved as a reminder. there are scorched walls here, some of them pock marked with shrapnel and broken glass. family rooms bu s burned out ant empty. and to the danger of this island that north korea continues to pose. islanders say renewed north korean threats are bringing anxieties flooding back. >> translator: it's been almost three years and i remember how my heart sank. now i'm having this feeling in my chest all over again. >> reporter: it's made worse by recent images like these, of north korea's leader of kim jong-un. the attack is portrayed as a military victory that could be repeated, adding pressure on south korea to respond with
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tough action next time. >> translator: if the north were to carry out another provocation like in 2010, i personally hope that my government will respond very strongly. by doing this, the north will not see south korea as an easy target but as a strong country instead. >> reporter: but a strong response over these tiny islands risks plunging the korean peninsula into all-out war. these yellow sea tensions could prove dangerous indeed. matthew chance, cnn, yeonpyeong island in south korea. >> very tense situation there. when we come back, a provocative new idea to make airline passengers pay more based on ha they weigh. could it really take off? of all the fbi's most notorious cases, the one that grabs the most attention from the american public has to do with flying saucers. that's coming up. even the inside of your dishwasher sparkles.
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as if flying already isn't expensive, people are thinking up new ways airlines can make you pay extra. among the new ideas, basing the fare on how much you weigh. lisa, explain how this would work. >> reporter: yeah, this is an idea not going over very well. the question, though, should passengers have to step on a scale in order to step on an airplane? well, there is already one airline that's doing this. the price of an airline ticket varies, depending on how far in advance you buy your ticket, the time of play you want to fly and the day itself.
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but what if airlines factored in something else -- how much you weigh. a study by a norwegian professor says airlines should base prices based on weight. how much you weigh. a study suggests airlines base prices on a passenger's weight. >> some people would think it's discrimination, but because i am straight up economics for me it's not discriminatory at all. >> in a paper in the pricing management argues reducing the weight on a plane by a little more than two pounds will result in a fuel savings of $3,000 a year, and he proposes passengers self declare their weight when they book a ticket. on a flight between d.c. and chicago, sally who weighs 120 pounds, her ticket would be $240, and paul on the same flight weighs 280 pounds, and
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his twice is $360, and steve would pay $540. you might think it's a strange idea, but believe it or not there's actually an airline already doing it. samoa air charges passengers by the poupd. >> southwest airlines sometimes requires overweight passengers to book two seats, and that was the way it was done before, see that man standing on the scale? the national association to advance fat acceptance. >> treating people like freight is not a good alternative. it's a pr nightmare for the airlines to even consider such a thing. >> at the airport, parents thought it was a good idea to charge by the pound. >> i mean, i guess for kids it might be a good idea because then you don't have to pay full fare for children. >> but on the whole -- >> men are larger than women, so
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will they have to pay more to fly. that doesn't make sense to me. >> i think that would be discriminatory. >> it's an idea that didn't seem to fly. the economists suggested charging for the combined weight of the passenger and their luggage. and it's up to individual airlines to price and sell products as they choose, and with that said there are no plans for any airline other than samoa air that wants to weigh you before you can get on the airplane, wolf. >> imagine pregnant women, for example, would they have to pay more because they are pregnant? >> that is one of the questions out there. samoa air doesn't make any exceptions and they are the only airline doing this, but could you imagine the outrage of people stepping on the scale and tell the truth of how much they weigh. >> good report. thank you. when we come back of all the
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fbi's most notorious cases, the one by far that grabs the attention of the public has to do with flying saucers. ♪ lookin' good, flo! feelin' good! feelin' real good! [ engine revs ] boat protection people love. now, that's progressive. call or click today.
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with ufos. our brian todd has the story. >> reporter: it's called the vault, the fbi's digital reading room where any of us can go online and view the beau yo's most looked at disks. >> it's about flying saucers and it relates to an allegation that we heard from a third hand saying the air force found a couple of saucers out in the new mexico desert. >> reporter: can't be, most people want to read about machine gun kelly and al capone, right? >> you would think so. but this has gotten over 1 million views since we put it up two years ago. al capone doesn't make the top 50. >> reporter: an air force
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investigator stated so-called flying saucers had been recovered in new mexico. they were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter. each was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall, and john fox is the fbi's historian. >> this was never followed up on, right? >> no, it says right here, no further evaluation was attempted concerning the above. >> why not? >> from what we can read, it looks like they thought this was third-hand information, that this was not necessarily a hoax, which it could have been, but that somebody was simply reporting hear say. >> it was more for the air force to look in to with numerous reports that were never stance 800. one reason the memo went viral,
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because when the fbi fault was set up online two years ago, tabloids seized on that memo, saying it appeared to backup that aliens existed. there are hundreds of other pages in the fbi fault in the unexchanged phenomenon section that are more popular online than the fbi's files on bonnie and clyde and other cases. cases involving bin laden, and investigations into the murders of civil rights leaders, and fox says out of all the strange cases he came across. >> 50-foot diameter sauces, and aliens, that's unique. >> and we can say a little frustrating for fbi officials who tell us it tkau srurts attention from all the work they have done and all the dangers they faced through the years to capture fugitives and solvehe